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Julie Fogh and Casey Erin Clark, co-founders of Vital Voice Training, are excited to share "Voice (is)" - a podcast where they have conversations with people whose voices they love to dive into the good, the bad, and the messy of what makes your voice YOURS.

Expect actionable advice about public speaking, confidence, nerves, in-office communication, etc, as well as deeper discussions on what power looks (and sounds!) like, how to let go of perfectionism and use fear to your advantage, and how to show up as your authentic self in a world full of unconscious bias.

Vital Voice Training is a voice, public speaking, and communication coaching company founded to help clients communicate with savvy, charisma, and confidence. Whether you are giving a speech, leading a sales appointment or a brand new team, pitching your big idea for funding, or just finding the courage to make your voice heard, co-founders Julie Fogh and Casey Erin Clark’s extensive backgrounds in speech coaching and professional acting give them a unique perspective on what makes people want to listen. For the client, the result is your voice: amplified (not just louder).

Mar 11, 2020

Julie and Casey sit down remotely with Jennifer Dziura, founder of Get Bullish and the Bullish Conference, and key figure in their origin story. Prepare yourselves for some serious patriarchy smashing, some VERY strong opinions, a meditation on fragile bodies (and how anyone on Star Trek uses a bathroom), and a dose of no holds-barred advice on badassery.  (Strong language)


  • Human bodies are fragile, ridiculous meat sacks.  Conference organizers should plan accordingly.  Breaks!  Bathrooms!  Sufficient seating!  And for goodness’ sake, real food.
  • When you’re used to people disagreeing with you with well-reasoned arguments in a formal setting, it’s hard to get riled by gross people on Twitter. (Debate team FTW)
  • John Stuart Mill’s theory of the “marketplace of ideas” doesn’t hold much water in the year of our lord 2020 - people don’t change their minds via well-reasoned argument (usually they just entrench further).  But a “buffet of ideas” where everyone can come and take what they want might be more realistic and more feminist!
  • Setting up your business so you don’t have to deal with toxicity is a great way to have leftover energy to deal with toxicity in your life.  (It’s also a compelling case for entrepreneurship.)

Jennifer Dziura is the founder of GetBullish, a blog about careers and business from a feminist POV, and the annual Bullish Conference. GetBullish's online shop now sells over 4,000 items, including the signature "We will dance on the graves of the patriarchy and drink the bitter tears of mediocre men" travel mug. She lives in Brooklyn and her name is pronounced "Di-ZUR-a."